I can use app manager without setting device owner - it should not be possible?

[beowulf381]

Without device owner and using just Knox you can't disable apps with alliancex shield, you can only prevent apps from starting.
'Prevent' is NOT 'disable', and does not work with system apps like GOS.

Using Knox to disable would be against Samsung's terms, so we do not implement this in our app, however other devs like the one from package disabler pro do not care about this, so he gets revoked his knox license over and over and then charges his clients over and over for a 'new' version, generated by begging for a new key with a new fake company. It's up to you to decide, how reputable this would be...

So we support disable only with device owner set, which is not violating Samsung's terms.

Can't say anything about this kc3.apk, we just had to do some research about it, if we find time to do this.

And for your last question, again the apps are NOT disabled, only prevented, like described above.

[nolan]

Ah ok i understand now. Does "prevented from start" have the same positive result as "disabled" on the battery life for the given app? Thats my main concern

If i enable "device owner" then apps can be fully disabled ? But then i have to reset my phone ?

Whats the difference between "disable" and "prevent from running"

thanks

Nolan

[beowulf381]

'Prevent from start' is just you can't start an app, try this with an app like youtube, and you'll see it won't start anymore, as long as you do allow it again.
This 'prevent' cannot work with system apps and services (like the game optimizing service). They are forced to start, even if you try to prevent them.

Device owner will allow you to really disable all of them, but take care, if you disable the wrong, you may run into problems. A good example would be if you disable the launcher one ui, without installing another one, like nova launcher before.

You can activate device owner with several methods, like described here:

shield/device-owner-qr-setup/

An alternative method (without factory reset) is to remove ALL accounts from your device (can add them back later), and then set shield app as device owner with android debug bridge command (ADB).

[nolan]

thanks

I just need to know then: Does "prevented from start" have the same positive result as "disabled" on the battery life for the given app?

reg Nolan

[beowulf381]

Well, if you can prevent an app from starting (like youtube), then it does not run and can't use battery power.
If it is a system app (like GOS, and even facebook is a system app - what is weird) it can lurk in the background or forced started by the system, so those apps will drain your battery as usual without device owner driven disable.

[nolan]

Ok thanks i see

regards Nolan

[blackdevolog]

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[sarawatson799]

Disabling Apps Without Device Owner: Typically, disabling system apps without setting a device owner shouldn't be possible on a non-rooted device. However, certain third-party apps or scripts, like those used in package disablers, might allow this by exploiting certain features or permissions on the device.

kc3.apk and Package Disabler Pro: The kc3.apk app likely modified some settings or permissions on your device to allow Package Disabler Pro to work without setting a device owner. This could be why you can now disable apps using other apps like Alliance X without needing to set a device owner.

Safety Concerns about kc3.apk: If you're concerned about the safety of kc3.apk, it's understandable, especially if you're unsure about the developer's integrity. If you no longer trust the developer, it's wise to uninstall the app and consider resetting your device to factory settings, although this is a more drastic measure. It’s always best to source apps from trusted developers and official app stores to avoid potential security risks.

Hiding Disabled Apps in the App Drawer: Unfortunately, most default Android launchers, including Samsung's One UI, don't have a built-in feature to hide disabled apps from the app drawer. You might need to use a third-party launcher like Nova Launcher, which allows you to hide apps, including disabled ones, from the app drawer.

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That’s an interesting observation! Normally, using an app manager without setting the device owner should be restricted, since device owner mode is what gives the app elevated control. If it’s working without that step, it could be a bug or a loophole in the way permissions are handled. Might be worth reporting to the developers or checking if it’s a feature of the specific Android version you’re using.

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